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« Reply #15 on: December 26, 2005, 03:29:27 PM »
That and 95% of the Transcendant's messages remind the player of lines spoken by various characters either in logs or missions in Sync.

Curiously, I've never really noticed that before. I need to go play those last few missions again...

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« Reply #16 on: February 14, 2006, 04:54:48 PM »
I wonder how would Shivans react for Transcendant's influence. Would they become slaves like Chondral or Generarion?
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« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2006, 10:19:12 PM »
Who knows? It seems they would have been consumed by him like the rest of the universe was about to be. Though I wonder if they'd be able to use their subspace HAX to try killing him or something.

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« Reply #18 on: February 15, 2006, 10:23:38 PM »
Perhaps they did try... :nervous: [/vague hint]

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« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2006, 11:07:00 AM »
Now my theory.

Remember red nebula in the end of Sync? Presistance found Triton class freighter, which towed it away before. It was almost destroyed. Earlier they found Phi 4. It was also damaged, but less than Triton, because he jumped out later than Triton. Phi 2 jumped as the last one, but he wasn't found.

I think Phi 2 is Transcendant.
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« Reply #20 on: February 26, 2006, 01:04:24 AM »
Double post to get attention.

I've played through Transcendant once more. I've seen some things directly connected to Sync.

First is in mission in nebula-Antarens. There are 3 wings coming with Generation. Alpha and Beta are from Sync. Gamma wing has been killed during travell to Vega for awnsers.

Second in one of logs Sunder writes about begin hired to escort poseidons with cargo. If Transcendant is Phi 2, then he probably gave Sunder his memories.

Beside this all story is very blurry. Remember begin of Sync? Maybe the pirates, which attacked you were Chondral's smugglers, and that mysterious Myrmidon wing was from Omega's group?

I don't see any connections beetwen Sync device and Transcendant. I think after Phi 2-Transcendant change he changed time and everything was like Freespace 2 main champaing. Transcendant's appears in nebula, subspace and exchange could be his initial influence to time before complete change of history.
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« Reply #21 on: February 26, 2006, 01:22:04 AM »
The only problem is that Phi 2 wasn't hired to escort the freighters--Alpha wing was. Phi was simply ordered to escort the Persistence.

And remember that cargo container that Omicron finds in the nebula with the Chondrall? In Sync, the cargo and the Farae disappear in the long purple nebula mission, so I think that those two events may have similar roots or purposes. The Transcendant is in Sync as well--he's the mysterious fighter that the Vasudan corvette detects in the first mission, and chances are he's the one that Alpha 1 is sent to hunt in subspace.

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« Reply #22 on: February 26, 2006, 09:28:07 AM »
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The only problem is that Phi 2 wasn't hired to escort the freighters--Alpha wing was. Phi was simply ordered to escort the Persistence.


I don't remember Sync well, but i think Alpha 3 told Phi about it.

I want to correct myself: initial influence was also present after exchange and warp out. Examples: no planets in Vasudan systems, strange derbis fields and those "ghost fighters" arriving and departing during following Quetesh and founding Comm Nav Bouy.
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« Reply #23 on: February 26, 2006, 01:25:10 PM »
For some reason, I've always seen a connection between the fact that there are no planets in the first galaxy and End from Transcend.

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« Reply #24 on: March 03, 2006, 08:34:43 AM »
Remember Sync's subtitle?

"You're out of time."

Prehaps everything Alpha 1 came through wasn't "real" at all? Maybe he has gone throught things from many timelines?
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« Reply #25 on: March 25, 2006, 10:23:02 PM »
Replaying this campaign one more time has led me to the conclusion that there's another major reference made in the campaign.

Listen to the Transcendant's messages in the final mission. The Transcendant says something along the lines of "Do you see?" Now, if the player's a fan of sci-fi movies, this line would be familiar: it's also Sam Neil's last line in Event Horizon.

That's not the only reference to Event Horizon that I've seen through here. The heavily-garbled transmissions are a dead giveaway, especially the one saying "Help me" (similar to "Liberate me" and "Liberate tuteme ex inferiis").

Perhaps the Sync drive did the same to the Persistence and the Sync crew that it had done to the Event Horizon--taken it to another dimension or galaxy. Just something to chew on...

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« Reply #26 on: May 02, 2006, 04:22:18 PM »
I've replayed Sync, looked on few missions and found intresting things.

First are attacking fighters in first stage of champaing. Didn't anyone found strange there were always 3 Hercs? Another strange thing is they arrive only in missions with Transcendant. Only in first mission first wing contained 4 Hercs. But most strangest is when Omega 4 destroys Alpha 4, it blows up along with it's victim. Also Alpha 1 can target only first fighter from enemy wings, but don't you think also Alpha 2 and 3 can target only enemy 2 or 3? It looks like attackers are some kind of mirrored "clones" of Alpha wingmen.

Second is that Pegasus fighter, which appears in M1 (nebula), M3 (inside jump node, it jumps out after few seconds of mission), M4 (inside subspace) and M8 (long distance from Alpha wing).
I've looked in FRED to all these missions, and found very intresting thing.
In first mission it's named "Unknown". In M3 "Darkness". But in M4 and M8 it's named "Penumbra". I've also looked at its waypoint in M4. It's named "PenumbraTerantoJump". Don't you think Penumbra Teranto could be real name of Transcendant? I'll redownload and replay Transcend and look at the name in FRED. Maybe i'll find more findings like this one. ;)


Trird is about M6. There are 4 bombers destroying GTVA corvette, Archeon. When you try to destroy one of those bombers, you can't because they're invulerable, like Ransom didn't want them to be destroyed. Look at their codename. Beta. The same codename had bomber wing from Persistence. Maybe it sent them to destroy eventual witness and then changed their bombers to Ursas to don't make any suspicions among traders.



Fourth is about Beta 2. How did Beta 2 knew about Sync? Also, he "came through intense psychological trauma". I think i found reason. If you'll look at FRED to M8, you'll see Penumbra is jumping out along with everybody else. Maybe Beta wing met him in one of those systems. Then he somehow ordered Beta 2 to kill his squadmates and told about Sync. Also you should look at Beta 2's behavior in a mission, in which he gets killed by Shivan beam. "Did he lead us to that debri field for a reason?". It was written by Alpha 2 after that mission. I wonder if Penumbra tracked Persistence all along their way and gave orders to Beta 2 before his actions.


All events from Sync looks like planned. I bet Penumbra has got a plan he realizes during whole story. Maybe we'll find out what that plan is during later parts.


Still something bothers me. Who were those fighters player met in M7? Did they knew about Penumbra and wanted to stop him from realizing his plan?




EDIT: I've replayed Transcend, looked at some missions to FRED, and found evidance not only for theory about Transcendant=Phi 2, but also that some of Sync characters were "ported" to Transcendant (fanfares please ;) ).

Look at that flash of Presistence group in E4M10 (mission, in which Sunder realizes, that Transcendant wants to be set free). First you can see Presistence and Farae jumping in, but then, there very short sub-flash, then it goes back to main flash. I've looked to that mission and saw thing, which explains everything.

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I think that's enough evidance. It would also look like Penumbra isn't Transcendant, but somebody else.
How have Sync characters found theirself in Transcend, we can only speculate (until Ransom will release another parts of Sync).
« Last Edit: May 14, 2006, 05:16:55 PM by Qwer »
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« Reply #27 on: June 01, 2006, 06:21:59 PM »
Qwer you have some very good points

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First are attacking fighters in first stage of champaing. Didn't anyone found strange there were always 3 Hercs? Another strange thing is they arrive only in missions with Transcendant. Only in first mission first wing contained 4 Hercs. But most strangest is when Omega 4 destroys Alpha 4, it blows up along with it's victim. Also Alpha 1 can target only first fighter from enemy wings, but don't you think also Alpha 2 and 3 can target only enemy 2 or 3? It looks like attackers are some kind of mirrored "clones" of Alpha wingmen.


I Have never thought about this. I`ll have to replay it. It does give it another unnatural twist though.;)
 
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I've replayed Transcend, looked at some missions to FRED, and found evidance not only for theory about Transcendant=Phi 2, but also that some of Sync characters were "ported" to Transcendant (fanfares please  ).


How do you Know it wasn`t Just a cuinsadense(sp?). In the missions the Pegasus the fighter was in, about half of them had Phi 2 in it. How can he be in the same place twice. I got the impression that the Transcendant was being tested with Sync and got ghostly somehow(Higher plane of existance:naughty:). They were seperated and the Trancendant during the entire first act of Sync was tracking it down sync and trying to find a way to get it back. That is why he got so powerful in Transcend, he finally got sync. As for Phi 2, he was only a security guard.

Taking a different route I don`t see sync(the campaign) ending very happy. They have three choices at the end. 1.They could try to jump the entire area to another portion of the universe and get themselves killed. 2. They could try to take shivans head on and try to steal Sync and hope the Shivans follow them back to the node. Which may start another running game or they get killed right off the bat. 3. Or they watch in horor as the entire GTVA falls.
Seems to me there is nowhere out of the situation. But in the other hand I am only speculating. It could all end happy.:)

Edit: Wow I wrote to fast. Sorry :p
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« Reply #28 on: June 02, 2006, 01:02:50 AM »
Sorry...I`m a terrible typer.
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« Reply #29 on: June 02, 2006, 01:18:25 PM »
Kernal - Sync Pegasus isn't Transcendant. It's somebody else, named Penumbra in Sync M4 and M8.
Also look at one of Alpha 3 logs in last missions. He mentions about somebody, who watches them, somebody who wants nothing, and Shivans are his messengars. I bet it's about Penumbra.
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