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« Reply #45 on: December 06, 2006, 03:05:24 AM »
I agree that a common structure needs to be hammered out (whatever system it may be based on. My knowledge stems from R.A.F./R.C.A.F information as well; but I'm sure even a Dolt like me can adhere to a system).
Here's a proposal:
72 craft- Da Bomb.
36 craft- Cheese Cutter.
12 craft- Sail Ripper.
4 craft- Unmistakable Odor.
2 craft- Fart in the Wind.
Hmmm. Might be to "wordy".
Note: Section one of my post is serious, btw ;+).
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« Reply #46 on: December 06, 2006, 09:46:43 AM »
Excellent!:biggrin1:
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« Reply #47 on: December 06, 2006, 09:47:17 AM »
I know it's taking it a little off-topic, but it's nice to see some people posting here who know about the heroes of WW1. Having played Knights of the Sky (first in EGA, then later in VGA!!!) and Red Baron 1 / 2 and enjoyed reading the history associated with it (both RFC/Allies and the German Flying Service) it seems I'm not the only hardened, long-term sim flyer here ;)
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« Reply #48 on: December 06, 2006, 06:57:43 PM »
IL2 Series, ftw!
I've been a MechWarrior (and Forgotten Hope) for to long: Started playing IL2 after a long hiatus, and have been getting owned by the AI (not ready to go back online yet).
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« Reply #49 on: December 06, 2006, 07:01:18 PM »
Quote from: StarSlayer;50223
I would be interested in seeing how the USAF structure fits up against the French Air Force(at least the early WWI era), the origins of the Army Air Corps latter the USAF has many ties back to the old Lafyette Escardrille of WWI. American pilots volunteered to fly for the French and those veterans such as Raul Luffberry played a significant role in training the new US flyers(such as Rickenbacker). If the US carried over more of the French structure then the British, well we know how the French and the Brits get along.

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« Reply #50 on: December 10, 2006, 10:14:10 PM »
Here is how it is in Canada:

Element:1 aircraft
Flight: 2 to 6 aircrafts (generally 4, depends on mission)
Squadron: 3 Flights
Wing: 3 Squadrons (independent of type ie: Fighter, SAR, etc)

Usually, there is only one Wing per base, so one Wing can have 2 fighter squadrons and a SAR squadron, just like in Bagotville.

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« Reply #51 on: December 11, 2006, 05:23:45 PM »
A bit like the RAF, which makes it good!
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« Reply #52 on: December 11, 2006, 06:04:00 PM »
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I know it's taking it a little off-topic, but it's nice to see some people posting here who know about the heroes of WW1. Having played Knights of the Sky (first in EGA, then later in VGA!!!) and Red Baron 1 / 2 and enjoyed reading the history associated with it (both RFC/Allies and the German Flying Service) it seems I'm not the only hardened, long-term sim flyer here ;)



Red Baron (original) FTW! :nod:

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« Reply #53 on: December 11, 2006, 08:42:30 PM »
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A bit like the RAF, which makes it good!
Pretty much.  Here's a puzzle for you though - why are flights usually commanded by Sqn Ldrs, Sqns by Wg Cdrs and Stations (ie wings) by Gp Capts?  I never did work that one out.:confused:
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« Reply #54 on: December 11, 2006, 11:52:14 PM »
I bet it has something to do with NATO equivalency. For example, the Squadron leader rank goes back to pre-WWII, and is the equivalent of a Major in the U.S. Military (guessing) so when the rest of NATO decided that Lieutenant Colonels (or the NATO equivalent O-5) should command a Squadron (or Battalion) the RAF had to change it's rank structure to accomadate, making Wing Commanders the C.O.s of a squadron. Just a guess.

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« Reply #55 on: December 12, 2006, 05:15:19 AM »
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Cause if we don't get it right now the entire team is going to get mauled when the full game comes out :)


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« Reply #56 on: December 12, 2006, 07:22:25 AM »
oh the noobs will get eaten alive of course :-) haha. then again any of us who havent played will get eaten by people like the devs. I havent played a space/flying sim in who knows how long. so ill be there too. but other then dying a lot, i think everybody will be pretty welcoming to new guys :-)
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« Reply #57 on: December 12, 2006, 07:45:07 AM »
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How are the NooBs (or just casual players) going to be treated?

As meat shields :p

Seriously though I'd like to hope that people will be nice to casual gamers and newbies. If they're not you can always lock games based on rank and only let the players who are just starting out in.

It's worth remembering that unlike the old PXO, FS2NetD is under the communities control (Via Matt or Taylor) and although banning people is a pain it could happen if there is more than an acceptable level of good natured abusiveness from someone :D

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« Reply #58 on: December 12, 2006, 02:00:11 PM »
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As meat shields :p

ROFL;)
 
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« Reply #59 on: December 12, 2006, 02:08:45 PM »
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I fully expect to be Cannon Fodder myself....:eek2:


I have not read that, number 1.  :p