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Title: Site Survey
Post by: MatthewPapa on July 25, 2009, 09:41:39 PM
Just a quick question, what resolution is everyone using when they browse the web these days?

I am continuing where I left off on revamping the homepage/site and need this information for design purposes, thanks!

Also, if your resolution is not on here pick the one lower one that is close to yours

EDIT: please take a look here
http://game-warden.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7539
Title: Site Survey
Post by: shiv on July 25, 2009, 09:45:55 PM
Don't forget about 1280x800! I use it on my laptop :(
Title: Layout
Post by: shiv on July 25, 2009, 09:48:18 PM
Is there a chance for FreeSpacey layout of the Forum and website?
Title: Site Survey
Post by: MatthewPapa on July 25, 2009, 09:53:50 PM
thread merged

We will think about it. Right now there are some more fundemental things that need to be done/fixed but a style revamp is on the "to do" list
Title: Site Survey
Post by: shiv on July 25, 2009, 09:56:53 PM
I'd suggest some good starfield in the background, FreeSpacey "Game-Warden v2.0" with cool Orion destroyer in background :pimp:

Also lots of hosted projects need archiving. I also want to suggest to move hosted projects boards to the up side of the Forum.

Useful thing might be also showing off urls to the active projects website somewhere where they're visible.

Maintaning news, galleries and stuff on the website might be cool, it can bring some attention to this site.
Title: Site Survey
Post by: Axem on July 25, 2009, 09:58:06 PM
I'd make sure it works with 1024 horizontally, netbooks tend to have that as a normal res.
Title: Site Survey
Post by: MatthewPapa on July 25, 2009, 09:59:41 PM
Quote from: shiv;118211
Also lots of hosted projects need archiving. I also want to suggest to move hosted projects boards to the up side of the Forum.
I can guess a few that need it, but just to make sure we are on the same page which ones are you thinking of?
Quote from: shiv;118211
Useful thing might be also showing off urls to the active projects website somewhere where they're visible.
Maintaning news, galleries and stuff on the website might be cool, it can bring some attention to this site.
You read my mind! Thats actually what i am doing right now. The CMS we use is broken in so many ways...
Title: Site Survey
Post by: shiv on July 25, 2009, 10:03:18 PM
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I can guess a few that need it, but just to make sure we are on the same page which ones are you thinking of?
Some active projects became just inactive? They need to be moved to inactive ones. Gundam Seed and other ones...
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You read my mind! Thats actually what i am doing right now. The CMS we use is broken in so many ways...
There'll be needed maintainers of news, galleries and etc. You really should perform some recruitment. Honestly, I'd love to do some job like that, but I'm not a native English speaker and my grammar might hurt some people's eyes when reading my texts :P
Title: Site Survey
Post by: MatthewPapa on July 25, 2009, 10:05:18 PM
Quote from: shiv;118215
Some active projects became just inactive? They need to be moved to inactive ones. Gundam Seed and other ones...

There'll be needed maintainers of news, galleries and etc. You really should perform some recruitment. Honestly, I'd love to do some job like that, but I'm not a native English speaker and my grammar might hurt some people's eyes when reading my texts :P


Well if you are offering I could definitely use some help. Same goes to everyone else.

Let me get everything functioning properly first, and then I will let you have at it
Title: Site Survey
Post by: shiv on July 25, 2009, 10:19:29 PM
Can't wait :D
Also, I suggest importing all HLP smileys. ":D" looks bad compared to the HLP one for example ;)
Title: Site Survey
Post by: DaBrain on July 25, 2009, 10:24:28 PM
1280*1024 on my main PC and 14xx*something crazy on my laptop. I'm not even sure.

I usually use my PC though.
Title: Site Survey
Post by: Rodo on July 26, 2009, 03:08:57 AM
using 1680 x 1050 over here.. though I might be the only one with that res ..
Title: Site Survey
Post by: kruai on July 26, 2009, 04:18:57 AM
1366x768  ;_;
Title: Site Survey
Post by: MatthewPapa on July 26, 2009, 09:11:26 AM
OK Ive got a new style in the works and I would like some feedback
To see the new style go to the forum homepage (game-warden.com/forum)
go to the bottom left hand corner of the page and select the style "candidate2"
observe

Now this is just a prototype, but its something I have been toying with for a while. What do you think?
Title: Site Survey
Post by: shiv on July 26, 2009, 09:49:38 AM
Now it hurts less my eyes, so it's better.
However, I'd change everything orange/yellow to Lightblue colour.

And maybe darker background would work better too.
Also post icons aren't good IMO. I'd go with something like freespace.pl/forum has or sectorgame has.
Title: Site Survey
Post by: DaBrain on July 26, 2009, 09:54:41 AM
Looks pretty nice!

I think we  should start an art contest to design the best GW forum banner image for the new style. :)
Title: Site Survey
Post by: shiv on July 26, 2009, 09:59:25 AM
oh yes... I'll try to do something in my paint.net :D
Title: Site Survey
Post by: peterv on July 26, 2009, 12:33:23 PM
"Candidate2" is very good but i miss some blue color.
Title: Site Survey
Post by: Rodo on July 26, 2009, 05:33:22 PM
candidate two looks really nice, we could keep it right like it is ^^
Title: Site Survey
Post by: MatthewPapa on July 26, 2009, 05:50:20 PM
thanks for the feedback people!

YES, i would love to have some people take a shot at making a logo. I did last night but wasnt able to create anything I liked.

First make it to match the orange theme, then any other color you would like the forum to be in. Other than that there are no specific instructions so have at it. Post it here when done (attach.) This is your chance to have something you made displayed in front of a bunch of people for many years to come!
Title: Site Survey
Post by: shiv on July 26, 2009, 06:04:09 PM
What's the time limit?
Title: Site Survey
Post by: MatthewPapa on July 26, 2009, 06:06:44 PM
just whenever
id prefer it sooner than later but no big deal either way
Title: Site Survey
Post by: shiv on July 26, 2009, 06:07:46 PM
What about colours? There was input that people would prefer blue, not the orange :P
Title: Site Survey
Post by: MatthewPapa on July 26, 2009, 06:10:58 PM
First make it to match the orange theme, then any other color you would like the forum to be in.
Title: Site Survey
Post by: MatthewPapa on July 27, 2009, 12:06:40 AM
I am going to need some people to volunteer to help me with content so I can spend some more time working on the technical stuff.

Anyone? I would appreciate any help at all.
Title: Site Survey
Post by: shiv on July 27, 2009, 07:14:09 AM
Me :)
Title: Site Survey
Post by: shiv on July 27, 2009, 08:25:40 AM
May I get background image from this: http://game-warden.com/forum/images/misc/logo.png ??
Title: Site Survey
Post by: shiv on July 27, 2009, 08:28:04 AM
Another issue on the main site is that the news system doesn't display backgrounds in the posts.
Title: Site Survey
Post by: qazwsx on July 27, 2009, 10:55:17 AM
1440x900 here...
yeah, I like my resolutions weird :P
Title: Site Survey
Post by: shiv on July 27, 2009, 01:33:20 PM
Ok. My logo + source files:

(http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/3209/logofinals.png)
Title: Site Survey
Post by: dragonsniper on July 27, 2009, 02:57:32 PM
Very nice. Like it a lot. :yes:
Title: Site Survey
Post by: Rodo on July 27, 2009, 03:45:41 PM
yeah it looks nice!
Title: Site Survey
Post by: MatthewPapa on July 27, 2009, 04:36:50 PM
I like it too :) .

There is a green and blue version coming so you'll be able to pick which one you prefer eventually
Title: Site Survey
Post by: MatthewPapa on July 27, 2009, 04:43:06 PM
Quote from: shiv;118342
Ok. My logo + source files:

(http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/3209/logofinals.png)


Is that the HTL herc ;)? Looks good I like it a lot.

I will post that existing logo in psd (layered) format if anyone is still interested?

By the way you are not bound to any size restrictions (other than whats reasonable of course.) I dont want to discourage artistic thinking
Title: Site Survey
Post by: Rodo on July 27, 2009, 05:56:27 PM
oh you could also use some of the work done in the hard-light array topic here there's plenty of nice images done by FSF and other members as well as myself.
Title: Site Survey
Post by: Mobius on July 27, 2009, 06:06:20 PM
Question: is it possible to change the layout and show child boards on the main forum page?
Title: Site Survey
Post by: MatthewPapa on July 27, 2009, 06:39:43 PM
no, because that would make our forum list really really really long. that would overly confuse people.
Title: Site Survey
Post by: Mobius on July 27, 2009, 08:53:10 PM
If links to the child boards are small we shouldn't have any problems... :)
Title: Site Survey
Post by: MatthewPapa on July 27, 2009, 11:35:56 PM
There, its changed. I dont really like it. What do yall think?
Title: Site Survey
Post by: shiv on July 28, 2009, 05:24:38 AM
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There, its changed. I dont really like it. What do yall think?
What's changed? I don't see any diffrence.
Title: Site Survey
Post by: MatthewPapa on July 28, 2009, 05:27:33 AM
Thats because I already changed it back :nervous:
Title: Site Survey
Post by: shiv on July 28, 2009, 05:29:25 AM
Is my logo that bad? :(
Title: Site Survey
Post by: MatthewPapa on July 28, 2009, 05:42:06 AM
ahhhhhh no no no definitely not. I was referring to the subforum display. Sorry if you thought I was talking about your logo.

I will put your logo up now.
Title: Site Survey
Post by: shiv on July 28, 2009, 04:30:45 PM
Thanks for putting my logo :)
It's a shame that there wasn't much competition between members. On the other hand I won :P
Title: Site Survey
Post by: dragonsniper on July 28, 2009, 04:33:24 PM
It looks great BTW. :yes:
Title: Site Survey
Post by: MatthewPapa on July 28, 2009, 04:56:59 PM
shiv, is there any way we can make it like 2/3 to 1/4 of the size it is now without losing much quality? The current size, 329kb, is a little on the heavy side for some people (I would assume.) If you need to decrease the dimensions slightly to accomplish that I think it will be fine.
Title: Site Survey
Post by: shiv on July 28, 2009, 05:07:15 PM
Try the one from attatchement. Can we talk on MSN?
Title: Site Survey
Post by: shiv on July 29, 2009, 08:36:31 AM
Quote from: Shade;111260
2) Pimp some of the more active projects (Like SoL or ED) on the front page, with an image accompanying each. This'll help get away from the wall of text feel. These could possibly go down the right side under the active threads box with a little box of its own for each major project.
3) In the active threads box, get rid of everything but the thread title to make it shorter. To make room for the project pimping.

I'm voting for applying those two things :D FreeSpace 2 Sector has done on their site already "2)"
Title: Site Survey
Post by: shiv on July 29, 2009, 11:19:46 AM
Tweaked forum logo.

EDIT:

I think that this:
(http://www.game-warden.com/forum/styles/vB_Dark/table_bg_image.gif)
Should be repleaced with something freespacey like the bars on HLP.
Title: Site Survey
Post by: shiv on July 29, 2009, 06:57:35 PM
Here are new graphics to repleace those: (http://game-warden.com/forum/styles/vB_Dark/images/statusicon/forum_new.gif)  (http://game-warden.com/forum/styles/vB_Dark/images/statusicon/forum_old.gif)
Title: Site Survey
Post by: Lt. Cannonfodder on July 29, 2009, 07:04:14 PM
Would this be a prudent time to ask for banning or limiting the use of images in sigs? They generally make the forum harder to read, especially so when they are animated gifs.
Title: Site Survey
Post by: MatthewPapa on July 29, 2009, 07:33:45 PM
Quote from: Lt. Cannonfodder;118620
Would this be a prudent time to ask for banning or limiting the use of images in sigs? They generally make the forum harder to read, especially so when they are animated gifs.

good suggestion. actually I have a proposal in the works that would allow project avatar sharing with HLP. in theory this will eliminate the need for signature images
Title: Site Survey
Post by: shiv on July 29, 2009, 08:25:48 PM
I think introducing sol/ED badges on HLP will be fair this way.
Title: Site Survey
Post by: Mobius on July 29, 2009, 09:06:57 PM
Are the sizes going to be affected? GW badges are different from those seen on HLP...

About the site: I think a section devoted to interviews may be a good addition - to get the section started, I could place there a couple of interviews I partecipated to in the past. :)
Title: Site Survey
Post by: shiv on July 30, 2009, 03:23:26 AM
Well, GW badges might be redone for hlp purposes.
Title: Site Survey
Post by: Mobius on July 30, 2009, 05:42:16 PM
For par condicio, at that point it'd be necessary to import badges from Sectorgame, FSMods, and any other FreeSpace fanbase hosting projects of public interest.
Title: Site Survey
Post by: karajorma on July 30, 2009, 06:47:00 PM
The only reason it can happen with GW badges is due to both sites being on the same server. That's not the case for SG.
Title: Site Survey
Post by: Mobius on July 30, 2009, 06:48:20 PM
Isn't it possible to get the badges from other sites and create specific groups to use them? I think that's possible even without server-sharing...
Title: Site Survey
Post by: Mobius on July 30, 2009, 10:20:06 PM
It's been considered the possibility of expanding the interface with screenshots. What kind of screens would be appropriate? I can take many of them from different perspectives. :)

Another thing: when considering the formation of a new staff, IMHO it'd be better to see give important roles to "new faces" instead of having the same people playing the same roles throughout multiple fanbases (Shiv's promotion to admin, for example, I something I really liked). Variety is good and brings many benefits with it. Antitrust-based proposal? Not really.

EDIT: What are the medals near my nickname for? I don't see anyone else with them.
Title: Site Survey
Post by: karajorma on July 30, 2009, 10:28:50 PM
Quote from: Mobius;118720
Isn't it possible to get the badges from other sites and create specific groups to use them? I think that's possible even without server-sharing...


It's also so annoying it's never going to happen.
Title: Site Survey
Post by: Axem on July 30, 2009, 10:39:37 PM
Quote from: Mobius;118742
Another thing: when considering the formation of a new staff, IMHO it'd be better to see give important roles to "new faces" instead of having the same people playing the same roles throughout multiple fanbases (Shiv's promotion to admin, for example, I something I really liked). Variety is good and brings many benefits with it. Antitrust-based proposal? Not really.


Eh? Care to give an example? The only person of power common to HLP and GW is karajorma. I may be a global moderator here and a moderator at HLP too, but my "area of influence" at HLP is the FRED board and the Diaspora board. Hardly a position of power.
Title: Site Survey
Post by: Mobius on July 30, 2009, 10:53:18 PM
There's nothing wrong with you, really. My point is that IMHO (no offense to anyone) it'd be better to have new faces like Shiv leading the site instead of promoting, let's say, General Battuta to global moderator on this site as well. There's nothing wrong in the people themselves (please take this into account before replying to my post), but an Antitrust touch would boost variety throughout FreeSpace fanbases. Let Karajorma be the only exception to the rule (since it's quite absurd to ask an administrator to resign for questionable Antitrust purposes). Obviously, this is just my suggestion in a thread devoted to suggestions, so what I'm doing here is posting what I would like to see. No one is obliged to accept my opinion.

Yet another disclaimer: no offense to anyone.

EDIT: Speaking of additions, is it possible to add a "delete" option to cancel posts? Double posters (like me, in the previous page) may wish to copy the content of a post, delete the old post and then create a new one. That's what I wanted to do, but I couldn't due to the lack of a dedicated option. Is adding it doable?
Title: Site Survey
Post by: karajorma on July 30, 2009, 10:58:39 PM
We'll promote whoever would do a good job in the role. Feel free to come up with some names of people who would do a good job who aren't already moderating on HLP though.
Title: Site Survey
Post by: Mobius on July 30, 2009, 11:02:00 PM
Snail has moderation powers on FS Modding... does his condition qualify him as a potential candidate?
Title: Site Survey
Post by: karajorma on July 30, 2009, 11:06:38 PM
Snail being Snail disqualifies him.
Title: Site Survey
Post by: MatthewPapa on July 30, 2009, 11:47:20 PM
the only reason it may seem like (its not true though, see below) the same people have power everywhere is because those people genuinely do a good/sufficient job at whatever they are supposed to be doing. They are well respected and liked in the community, as well as trusted. You cant get any position anywhere without those qualities both on the internets and real life. They have earned these titles.

I really have to disagree with the fact Kara is an admin here is a conflict of interest. There are so many reasons that is wrong. People are not put into power because they are those people. They are put there to fulfill a responsibility.

For instance when I disappear for a few weeks (like I seem to do sometimes due to RL, unfortunately) Kara and Dabrain take charge with the rest of the staff and satisfy all of the project requests. If they didnt do shit I doubt that they would be admins much longer. Since they do do that I am very very very thankful. Without them I dont know where we would be today. Stuff like that garners respect and trust.

Another example
Me: I am not an admin at HLP. I dont plan on becoming or trying to become one either. I am here where I am because I started this place, help pay for the server, have it registered under my name and tend to the Adsense. It is my responsibility to make sure that this place and HLP dont suddenly turn off and stay off. I feel indebted to this community for what it has done for me so I do what I must to ensure its survival.

(hopefully these examples make at least a little sense to you)

I picked shiv because he had enthusiasm and talent that was being untapped. I saw potential and I felt I could trust him due to his standing with everyone in the community. I didnt pick shiv just because he was shiv (sorry shiv :) )
Title: Site Survey
Post by: Mobius on July 31, 2009, 07:17:02 PM
The following lines represent the point of view of a single member who's willing to come out with proposals. No one is forced to accept them, and no one is obliged to read my post. All indirect references to specific members of the community are not meant to be used as offenses, but rather as examples. For this reason, no nicknames will be specified.

I've always liked Game Warden, so I think I have the right to post suggestions just like anyone else.

MatthewPapa, you have a point in your latest post... but having the same people doing the same things all over FreeSpace fanbases has its pros an cons: skilled people are a real boost to a site and the fact that they work for other sites should not be a real problem, but at that point you'd have to deal with the logic consequences. Any personal issue with a given person becomes a big deal which is instantly extended to the other fanbases. I've noticed people willing to ruin other simply because they have influence in several sites and can use the influence in a convenient way. Is that good? I don't think it is. There shouldn't be any "untouchable" people in the FreeSpace community, and anyone's action may be questioned if necessary. It's statistically impossible for the people high in ranks to be always right, so the last thing I would like to see here is the outstanding influence of "untouchables" who ruin all members who don't agree with them. That said, no one here is asking for a radical change to the site's ranks and internal structure - what I'm saying is that newly promoted people should be "new faces" who don't have any major roles in other FreeSpace fanbases. A replica of HLP/SG's rankings is not going to help Game Warden nor is going to help FreeSpace modding. In my honest opinion, it's unconceivable to eyewitness domino effects which damage members in an exaggerate way without reacting. I consider Shiv a superb example of "new face", and I really hope that he will do a great job here.

And now, the other sites. What makes FSMods and SG so nice to visit? Due to my personal experience, it's the fact that we see different people there (and even the people we usually see elsewhere appear different, if you get what I mean). Also, each site's characteristics (which are the result of the choice of various people) boost variety and lead certain people to prefer a site over the others.

If we want GW to rise, we need to take the good from the other FreeSpace fanbases and forget considering the bad. For instance, I think we should stick with the current Custom Title system instead of importing the one used on HLP (that system picks up random moments of a given member's life on the forums and marks them with embarassing/annoying results, and also tends to gratify people who do notable things - which temporarily attract the community's attention - and then disappear). Many members are pissed off at certain aspects of HLP's life - I've been talking to quite a few of them (who, unlike me, don't like making their opinions public) via IM programs and noticed that I'm not alone in considering HLP a sinking ship which has negatively changed in the past few months. For obvious reasons, I'm not going to reveal their names (as I said above, no names will be mentioned in this post for the sake of respect and for the purpose of keeping this a suggestion post instead of turning it into an actual complaint). Any replies to what I said here should be sent via PM (we need to remain on topic here) - in that case, expect a reasonable reply.

Additionally, I noticed that the new version of Game Warden is very similar to an Italian forum I'm a proud member of. The site use pretty much the same characteristics, and because I noticed personal blogs in that forum I was wondering if the same settings may be added to Game Warden. No, I don't have a Facebook/MySpace style in mind... but rather a series of blogs focused on FreeSpace modding&gaming with a few references to our personal lives here and there. It's something the other fanbases don't have, so adding it to Game Warden would be a nice idea (IMHO). Each member would have his/her own blog in which all major achievements/intents related to modding can be added. Additionally, other members will have the opportunity of engaging the others in peaceful discussions throughout the blogs. I know this may sound stupid, but I've seen these blogs working nicely - people add reviews, personal thoughts, reports specifying what they're currently playing and how they're playing it, etc. etc. In any case, I think this would fit with GW's philosophy.

It's also important to host new projects and bring here more people. I don't know how far I'm going to get with Colony Wars SCP (be advised it's still a temporary name), but I really hope to muster additional modellers and get the total conversion hosted here on Game Warden. My personal choice, which has been greatly accepted by the modeller who created the Navy Frigate (Matt, you know what I'm refering to), is obviously intended to support Game Warden and make the site more popular. Other teams may get full advantage of GW hosting and bring additional life to it.

Speaking of hosting, I think we should make the difference between hosted campaigns (which may or may not make use of exclusive stuff) and pure mods/total conversions. While the former type may not need a specific boards, the other should make use of them as usual. The example I can provide is The Procyon Insurgency, which is hosted at HLP even if there's nothing more than a release thread related to it.

I wish MatthewPapa to take in consideration what I posted here, and in case anyone needs more info I'd be more than glad to reply here or via PM.

EDIT: Is GW in need of donations? If things are promising I may donate money. :)

Just my 0.2€.
Title: Site Survey
Post by: MatthewPapa on July 31, 2009, 07:39:26 PM
Quote from: Mobius;118785

Additionally, I noticed that the new version of Game Warden is very similar to an Italian forum I'm a proud member of. The site use pretty much the same characteristics, and because I noticed personal blogs in that forum I was wondering if the same settings may be added to Game Warden. No, I don't have a Facebook/MySpace style in mind... but rather a series of blogs focused on FreeSpace modding&gaming with a few references to our personal lives here and there. It's something the other fanbases don't have, so adding it to Game Warden would be a nice idea (IMHO). Each member would have his/her own blog in which all major achievements/intents related to modding can be added. Additionally, other members will have the opportunity of engaging the others in peaceful discussions throughout the blogs. I know this may sound stupid, but I've seen these blogs working nicely - people add reviews, personal thoughts, reports specifying what they're currently playing and how they're playing it, etc. etc. In any case, I think this would fit with GW's philosophy.

Yes this style is used at several sites on the internet, and I happen to know exactly which forum you are talking about. It was however, heavily modified for our uses before I considered using it. The template was available free on vbulletin.org if anyone is interested.


I will look into the blog software addon...
Title: Site Survey
Post by: Mobius on July 31, 2009, 07:42:29 PM
Since when you visit Italian forums? ;)

If you want, I may post a thread there and ask the staff to give us hints (in case we need them, of course).
Title: Site Survey
Post by: MatthewPapa on July 31, 2009, 07:56:14 PM
no dont bother contacting them. The only reason I have been there is I wanted to see what someone else had done with the template for some ideas.

that software cost $60. After what I have paid for the board's software license already: no thanks. It didnt even look that intuitive. I think we need activity before we can consider an investment like that anyways

I think I can find something that is free that is better...
Title: Site Survey
Post by: Mobius on July 31, 2009, 08:01:47 PM
The cheaper and effective the solution is, the better. :)

EDIT: Oh, I get the connections between FFO and GW... FFO has an American server and the mighty Austin is mentioned on the site. Quite interesting. :)
Title: Site Survey
Post by: General Battuta on July 31, 2009, 08:55:38 PM
Mobius, you are an odd duck, given that Hard Light is apparently doing better than ever in terms of activity, new members, and quality of tech support and content.

And I just want to second MatthewPapa's remarks about why so many community members are shared between sites: they genuinely earned their positions and the respect that is accorded them.

As for helping out GameWarden, I think more interactivity between GW and Hard Light might help out. Why not post an announcement over at Hard Light about the existence and purpose of GameWarden?
Title: Site Survey
Post by: MatthewPapa on July 31, 2009, 09:09:07 PM
I appreciate the input GB

Actually GW has been announced before on HLP, and I would have assumed most people there knew about this place by now. Do you think otherwise? I am curious...

If not I definitely want to pimp out SoL and ED, again
Title: Site Survey
Post by: Mobius on July 31, 2009, 09:13:43 PM
I guess you didn't get my point, Battuta, because I'm pretty sure of what I noticed when talking to other members via IM... and quite honestly, I didn't invent anything from scratch. Things always appear nice if contrasting voices are silenced and/or are not made public, so I don't really understand the first part of your post. If you want, we may discuss that in private and prevent this thread from derailing (it's focused on GW's upgrades).

About your proposal: HLPers are well aware of GW's existence, it's just that GW is not as crowded as HLP and many projects of public interest like the SCP and FSU are hosted at HLP. More active projects here would mean more activity, so I guess GW's staff should be focusing on hosted projects to resurrect the boards. I hope to help with CW SCP but I can't promise anything yet.

EDIT: Good point, MatthewPapa. Pimping Shadows of Lylat and Earth Defense may be a very good idea, IMO.
Title: Site Survey
Post by: The E on July 31, 2009, 10:40:13 PM
Now I'm seriously curious. Where is all this oppression on HLP? Is it because people who annoy Moderators and/or Administrators get a slap on the wrist every now and then? Last time I checked, that was a big no-no on ANY moderated forum.
As for dissenting voices being silenced, where and when did that happen? Any mass thread deletions I am unaware of? Any unwritten rules about not voicing your disagreements in public? If there are that many people who feel that HLP is going downhill, why aren't they saying it somewhere where the general population of HLP can see it and discuss it?

Seriously, online communities change over time, as new members come in and old ones leave. Labeling that change as bad just because it happens sounds pretty stupid to me.
Title: Site Survey
Post by: General Battuta on August 01, 2009, 12:03:59 AM
Yeah, the fact that Mobius is talking to people who are dissatisfied with HLP is no evidence of anything wrong with HLP; it just means he's sought out people who are dissatisfied with HLP.

The gross minority.

Let's move on.
Title: Site Survey
Post by: Mobius on August 01, 2009, 12:20:22 PM
My POV was meant to help GW by evidencing the bad aspects of other communities and help GW emerging as something alternative (which is one of the many things GW needs to be fully resurrected). That is just my opinion, and this thread should not derail.

The E, if you want to know more you can simply ask me to send a PM.
Title: Site Survey
Post by: karajorma on August 01, 2009, 12:35:10 PM
Send me a PM.
Title: Site Survey
Post by: Mobius on August 01, 2009, 12:48:01 PM
Only if I know what you're going to do with it - either you'll take them in consideration in an interesting effort to reckognize evident lacks or you'll use them in the anti-Mobius crusade. Only the former option is reasonable enough for me.

I may specify in a detailled way what needs to be changed and/or acknowledged (according to my personal experience and my recent talks with other members). I will not reveal no one's nickname, though.
Title: Site Survey
Post by: General Battuta on August 01, 2009, 02:16:55 PM
There's never been an anti-Mobius crusade. Just trouble being handled, in the same way it was with an0n and woutersmits and the like.

The only difference is that you can't seem to accept it as well as those colorful characters.

Honestly, if you'd just shut up, work, and release INFASA, you'd be a long way back to repairing your image. Talk does nothing but make you look like a prima donna.
Title: Site Survey
Post by: The E on August 01, 2009, 03:07:29 PM
Quote from: Mobius;118821
My POV was meant to help GW by evidencing the bad aspects of other communities and help GW emerging as something alternative (which is one of the many things GW needs to be fully resurrected). That is just my opinion, and this thread should not derail.

The E, if you want to know more you can simply ask me to send a PM.


I do want to know more. However, I strongly feel that issues like these belong out in the open, for everyone to see and discuss. While internet forums may not be democracies, public opinion does have some influence. The flip side of that particular coin is, however, that opinions which are not made public do not change anything at all.
The last person I saw running around screaming "HLP is going down, leave the sinking ship for greener pastures" was an0n. Who, as it turns out, just couldn't understand that sometimes, the majority actually disagrees with him. Or that he could be wrong.
Title: Site Survey
Post by: Mobius on August 01, 2009, 04:15:48 PM
Matt, any chance of adding a section of the site devoted to polls? We may have stuff like "What's your favorite ship/campaign/bomber/fighter/style?" there. I'm not sure, but it may work... :)
Title: Site Survey
Post by: Lt. Cannonfodder on August 01, 2009, 05:22:37 PM
You might want to take a look at the section this thread is in...
Title: Site Survey
Post by: qazwsx on August 01, 2009, 05:38:27 PM
:ha::ha::ha:
XD
Title: Site Survey
Post by: Mobius on August 01, 2009, 05:43:30 PM
This is for polls with threads attached to them... I was refering to independent polls with no threads attached. But yeah, this place may be fine because threads = activity. :)
Title: Site Survey
Post by: karajorma on August 01, 2009, 07:36:27 PM
Quote from: Mobius;118823
Only if I know what you're going to do with it - either you'll take them in consideration in an interesting effort to reckognize evident lacks or you'll use them in the anti-Mobius crusade. Only the former option is reasonable enough for me.


There's never been an anti-Mobius campaign of any shape, size or form.
Title: Site Survey
Post by: Mobius on August 01, 2009, 11:34:27 PM
So you'd accept suggestions?

Back on topic: because the current polls is the way too important for the actual development of GW, I may create the polls mentioned above... but later. They're not particurarly useful (I recall similar threads on HLP), but may work for the sake of entertainment. :)
Title: Site Survey
Post by: karajorma on August 02, 2009, 07:21:31 AM
Quote from: Mobius;118860
So you'd accept suggestions?


I told you to send the PM didn't I?
Title: Site Survey
Post by: MatthewPapa on August 02, 2009, 08:23:38 AM
Quote from: Mobius;118860
So you'd accept suggestions?

Back on topic: because the current polls is the way too important for the actual development of GW, I may create the polls mentioned above... but later. They're not particurarly useful (I recall similar threads on HLP), but may work for the sake of entertainment.

Or go post some of those articles on the site that you said you wanted to do. actions speak a lot louder than words sometimes. You know, doing something instead of talking about doing something.
Title: Site Survey
Post by: Mobius on August 02, 2009, 11:03:13 AM
Quote from: karajorma;118869
I told you to send the PM didn't I?


And I almost certainly do it if I have time.

Quote from: MatthewPapa;118870
Or go post some of those articles on the site that you said you wanted to do. actions speak a lot louder than words sometimes. You know, doing something instead of talking about doing something.


First poll of a hopefully long series created.

Apparently, threads and their respective polls aren't posted at the same time. Snail, in fact, didn't notice any polls when reading the thread in the first place.
Title: Site Survey
Post by: Prototype on August 03, 2009, 02:57:12 PM
1280x800, missing in the poll.  ;_;
Title: Sorry!
Post by: Star Dragon on August 13, 2009, 12:31:11 PM
Missed the poll:

1024x768  (Vision impaired!)  :D
Title: Site Survey
Post by: Taristin on August 13, 2009, 03:11:53 PM
1440 x 900  x2
Title: Site Survey
Post by: intedge09 on November 26, 2009, 03:37:34 PM
No praise needed guys. But thanks anyway. Just contributing as much as I can to the site.
You have too keep members interested or thed just start to leave.
No menbers = no DR.
& Ill do what everI can to keep em posting for you
Title: Site Survey
Post by: Blue Lion on November 26, 2009, 07:00:22 PM
What?
Title: Site Survey
Post by: sodiumbenzoate on November 17, 2011, 08:07:33 AM
using 1680 x 1050
Title: Site Survey
Post by: bufferjim on December 01, 2011, 04:53:21 AM
Hi i like this forum very much.