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Title: Public Debate on the current status of GW
Post by: Mobius on January 24, 2009, 10:18:33 PM
As we're probably aware of, the levels of activity here on GW aren't that comfortable.

After a well-thought discussion a number of fellow GW members, including Karajorma, decided to bring GW back to life. We intend to do it by leading here more people and resurrect the boards with new discussions.

Each team is strongly encouraged bring the forums back to life with blogs, mystery threads, eyecandy threads and so on. :)

Also, we'd like people to post comments and suggestions about the matter.
Title: Public Debate on the current status of GW
Post by: shiv on January 24, 2009, 10:24:16 PM
Yeah. This board has been dead for a while. Let's bring it back to life! :D
Title: Public Debate on the current status of GW
Post by: DaBrain on January 24, 2009, 10:55:45 PM
Well, to be honest, I like GW better ]beacause it's smaller than HLP.

When I visit HLP I get crushed by PMs and new topics, I should look into.
So I visit HLP only  when I have a bit more time. I tend to visit GW more often.


I do have some ideas how to bring back some more acitivity to the boards though.
And you can be sure the SoL team will take part in keeping the boards alive.
We've been working on some pretty cool stuff, we have yet to show in public. And right now I'm working on something that might turn out very cool. Something you probably thought would be impossible in FSO. ;)


As for general topics, I guess we should simply start posting those again.
I remember a pretty interesting discussion about languages on GW.
Title: Public Debate on the current status of GW
Post by: MatthewPapa on January 24, 2009, 11:30:54 PM
Also, I am planning some forum software upgrades. Usually they are never deal breakers for some but they should help. Anything that you think I can do to help? (Obviously I have been gone for quite a while and that hasnt helped things :( )
Title: Public Debate on the current status of GW
Post by: karajorma on January 24, 2009, 11:40:33 PM
One suggestion I had was to take a leaf out of HLP's book and move the hosted projects right up to the top. Unlike HLP where the General Freespace and General Discussion boards are at least busy they're the heart of this place and should really be placed to reflect that.
Title: Public Debate on the current status of GW
Post by: Shade on January 24, 2009, 11:52:39 PM
Keeping the FS2NetD stats link, the FS2NetD forum and the Hosted Squadrons forum together in a distinct multiplayer category, as opposed to spread across two as they are now, might also improve accessibility. May not seem important as activity is low right now, but that's likely to change once a multiplayer oriented TC comes out and the squadrons become active again.

It's also something specific to GW, in that HLP doesn't host multiplayer squadrons. So it's a good idea to give it at least a little spotlight.

[Edit] Also, I'd kill for a list of recent posts on the main index page. That makes it far easier to keep track of what's going on.
Title: Public Debate on the current status of GW
Post by: MatthewPapa on January 25, 2009, 12:24:47 AM
Good, good. I like these suggestions. I am getting a to-do list going, please keep em coming!

Question: do you guys like the VBB portal (the thing when you see when you go to game-warden.com) ? I know it isnt really well refined yet but can you see enough potential in the concept to continue improving it?
Title: Public Debate on the current status of GW
Post by: Shade on January 25, 2009, 12:49:09 AM
To be honest, that portal has always seemed a bit off-putting to me. It's not very appealing right now as it's just walls of text in boxes. It could work, I think, but it would need an overhaul. Some ideas:

1) Use small changes in background colour/hue to seperate things like headlines from the actual body of posts in the news section. This will make it easier to browse at a glance. Also, just call it News instead of "Latest threads from our news forum".
2) Pimp some of the more active projects (Like SoL or ED) on the front page, with an image accompanying each. This'll help get away from the wall of text feel. These could possibly go down the right side under the active threads box with a little box of its own for each major project.
3) In the active threads box, get rid of everything but the thread title to make it shorter. To make room for the project pimping.
4) Get rid of unused boxes like top referrers and top downloads. They make the site look inactive.
5) Add a link to the main page at the top of the forums. The one at the bottom is easy to miss.
Title: Public Debate on the current status of GW
Post by: shiv on January 25, 2009, 09:37:25 AM
I think mainsite needs a lot of upgrading, Matthew. Simply look at Sectorgame webpage and compare it ;) And Forum script might need changing to SMF or PHP bb - IMO they're much more userfiendly.
Title: Public Debate on the current status of GW
Post by: MatthewPapa on January 25, 2009, 09:40:31 AM
I didnt think sectorgame had a updated webpage right now, just forums? Kinda like us at present

anyways
For the last few of hours I have been trying to upgrade various forum software versions. The process usually goes really smoothly, and if not only minor problems are present.

The shit hit the fan this time because vbportal is refusing to uninstall and then reinstall properly. Because of this I have had to restore pre-upgrade process backup. While you shouldnt notice any changes at all, I can not be 100% certain that the backup has everything configured as before.

Please report any bugs you find
Title: Public Debate on the current status of GW
Post by: Mobius on January 25, 2009, 10:53:33 AM
I can't access the main page, only the forums.
Title: Public Debate on the current status of GW
Post by: shiv on January 25, 2009, 10:56:18 AM
And shoutbox doesn't load for me at all.
Title: Public Debate on the current status of GW
Post by: karajorma on January 25, 2009, 05:07:38 PM
Quote from: shiv;111287
And shoutbox doesn't load for me at all.


So at least there has been some progress then. :p
Title: Public Debate on the current status of GW
Post by: MatthewPapa on January 25, 2009, 06:55:47 PM
there will be some down time later today. please be prepared. i will give a 30 minute warning
Title: Public Debate on the current status of GW
Post by: MatthewPapa on January 25, 2009, 10:52:57 PM
30 minute warning
Title: Public Debate on the current status of GW
Post by: MatthewPapa on January 26, 2009, 02:27:29 AM
Great! it worked this time. still had trouble. I had to give the database a thorough scrubbing, but it should be 100% functional now.

Inevitably there will be problems arising from the upgrade so please report bugs ASAP
Title: Public Debate on the current status of GW
Post by: shiv on January 26, 2009, 09:39:18 AM
No errors detected yet ;)
Title: Public Debate on the current status of GW
Post by: karajorma on January 26, 2009, 06:54:34 PM
One touch ban and clean doesn't seem to be working. I got this when I tried to ban the last spammer.

Quote
Your submission could not be processed because a security token was missing.

If this occurred unexpectedly, please inform the administrator and describe the action you performed before you received this error.
Title: Public Debate on the current status of GW
Post by: MatthewPapa on January 27, 2009, 01:59:51 AM
okay i will see what i can do.
we already had a spammer, despite our beefed up security :( ?
Title: Public Debate on the current status of GW
Post by: FUBAR-BDHR on January 27, 2009, 02:53:31 AM
Spammer or Bot?  No matter how much security you update you never get rid of spammers.  Now bots on the other hand.....
Title: Public Debate on the current status of GW
Post by: shiv on January 28, 2009, 08:37:49 PM
What about main site?? Let's bring... some life to it!
Title: Public Debate on the current status of GW
Post by: shiv on January 29, 2009, 11:56:41 AM
Matthew, could you remove stupid 5 image/post limit. In very long posts it's limiting smileys and included pics :(
Title: Public Debate on the current status of GW
Post by: MatthewPapa on January 30, 2009, 02:30:09 AM
okay, the limit should be 25 now.

The reason we had it limited for 5 was because back when GW was opened many people did not have broadband internet connections. We didnt want to completely flood their connection all at once. Now since thats less of an issue I would assume its okay to up it a little.

If anyone objects please let me know


As for all of the other suggestions: results are coming :)
Title: Public Debate on the current status of GW
Post by: shiv on January 30, 2009, 06:01:40 AM
Greeat. Thanks for removing this annyoing issue.
Title: Public Debate on the current status of GW
Post by: Shade on February 01, 2009, 08:51:57 PM
Found one problem: The donate button doesn't work... pops up a message about the submission not being processed due to a missing security token.
Title: Public Debate on the current status of GW
Post by: MatthewPapa on February 01, 2009, 09:48:06 PM
okay, thanks for reporting

ill c what i can do
Title: Public Debate on the current status of GW
Post by: Star Dragon on February 02, 2009, 11:32:10 PM
Matt, for the record I just wanted to let you know I have no problem if you wanted to move my section to the Archive.

Hopefully in the future things will pick up...
Title: Public Debate on the current status of GW
Post by: shiv on February 08, 2009, 05:38:29 PM
Annoucement to GW project leaders! :)

If we want to bring some attention to this board and our projects we all would better start posting regular project updates with screenshots, movies, teasers, etc :)

I strongly encourage everyone to do that!
Title: Public Debate on the current status of GW
Post by: shiv on June 24, 2009, 10:29:01 AM
This place is kinda... dead...
Title: Public Debate on the current status of GW
Post by: karajorma on June 24, 2009, 12:04:45 PM
Igor, fetch me 3 dead bodies and hook the jumper leads back up to the lightning rod. :p
Title: Public Debate on the current status of GW
Post by: golinging on October 31, 2011, 05:42:48 AM
To tell the truth, that portal has always appeared a little off-putting in my experience. It's not so appealing at this time as it is just walls of text in boxes. It might work, I believe, however it would want a change. Ideas:

1) Use small alterations in background colour/hue to seperate such things as head lines in the actual body of posts in news reports section. This makes it simpler to browse instantly. Also, just refer to it as News rather than "Latest threads from your news forum".

2) Pimp a few of the more active projects (Like SoL or Erectile dysfunction) around the top of the page, by having an image associated each. This'll help escape from the wall of text feel. This can possibly go lower the best side underneath the active threads box after some box of their own for every major project.

3) Within the active threads box, eliminate everything however the thread title to really make it shorter. To create room for that project pimping.

4) Eliminate unused boxes like top referrers and top downloads. They create the website look inactive.

5) Give a connect to the primary page towards the top of the forums. The main one at the end is simple to overlook.