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Title: New Computer
Post by: Foundry on June 01, 2008, 12:56:48 PM
I currently have a dell dimension 3000, shit I know but it's served me well for over 3 years. I need a machine that's as stable as my current one but most importantly I need one that can play older games that work on windows XP and can connect wirelessly to my internet (BTHomeHub). I tried a laptop with Vista but that did everything except for the 2 things I actually wanted and that was to play games and connect wirelessly to the internet. I really don't need a computer that does anything else other than gaming and internet.

I'm willing to try a machine with Vista but for now I'm more than skeptical as the backwards compatability is so f*cking dreadful. I'd be more than happy if someone could find a decent mac. I have around 500-600 to spend so definitely no super high-end stuff, just a decent computer. I have already yahooed some sites but I'm really not experienced when it comes to buying comps, I only know the places to avoid e.g. PC world, dell etc.

Before anyone makes suggestions for consoles I already have a 360 and love it dearly. The only problem is I can't play Homeworld 2 or FS2 on an Xbox! Any help will be much appreciated, thankyou in advance.
Title: New Computer
Post by: Blue Lion on June 01, 2008, 04:20:55 PM
Well what exactly is the problem with the old one?
Title: New Computer
Post by: Foundry on June 01, 2008, 04:38:12 PM
It's old. It's stable and I like windows XP but the fact is it's running on a PCI card and it can't play games at the level of performance and visual quality I'd like. I'd just like a new machine that can play games like they're supposed to be played instead of the 10 fps this machine does!
Title: New Computer
Post by: Blue Lion on June 01, 2008, 04:50:53 PM
Well gaming is going to be the one thing to push you over the top on what kind of computer to get.

My Dell is almost 5 years old, I just replaced the graphics card and RAM and it still works just fine.

That being said. Are you willing/capable of building your own or would you prefer a built machine?
Title: New Computer
Post by: Foundry on June 01, 2008, 06:09:30 PM
I know very little about computers, I'd definitely prefer a ready-built machine.
Title: New Computer
Post by: Blue Lion on June 01, 2008, 06:19:43 PM
It's been a while since I've bought one, Dell doesn't offer PCs without Vista?
Title: New Computer
Post by: Foundry on June 02, 2008, 03:28:25 PM
I just can't stand to use Vista and for all it's flaws XP is still reasonably stable. As I've said though I wouldn't mind any mac suggestions if you have any.
Title: New Computer
Post by: colecampbell666 on June 02, 2008, 11:44:46 PM
NCIX.com or NCIXUS.com. Choose all the parts, and they will build the PC for you. Tell me what you want, and I can help you choose parts.
Title: New Computer
Post by: colecampbell666 on June 03, 2008, 12:28:16 AM
It's actually very easy to build, and I could even do all the work making sure that the parts were compatible, you'd just have to buy it.

So what do you want to do? At what price range?
Title: New Computer
Post by: Foundry on June 03, 2008, 03:55:56 PM
I'm trying to get a computer around 500-600 that can play the latest games reasonably well and can connect to the internet wirelessly. I'm not looking for an unecassarily expensive high end gaming machine I just need something stable and new.

Unfortunately the site you gave me doesn't sell to the UK. Can you give me any other suggestions?
Title: New Computer
Post by: colecampbell666 on June 03, 2008, 06:06:47 PM
Don't know any site sin the UK, but I could give you parts that would fit in a 1000-1200 price range.

Do you need peripherals? (monitor, speakers, mouse, keyboard)

Do you have any special tasks? (modeling, Photoshopping, sound)
Title: New Computer
Post by: Foundry on June 03, 2008, 06:11:03 PM
I will need peripherals all the ones you mentioned in fact, I don't need any special tasks and I'm not willing to spend any more than 700 (around 1400 USD).
Title: New Computer
Post by: colecampbell666 on June 03, 2008, 09:05:58 PM
So focus on gaming?

EDIT: What's tax in the UK?
Title: New Computer
Post by: Foundry on June 03, 2008, 09:20:48 PM
Yes focus mostly on gaming and tax is 17.5%. I appreciate any help you can give me, thankyou for looking into it.
Title: New Computer
Post by: colecampbell666 on June 03, 2008, 09:32:09 PM
OK. First build.

CPU (http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=29252) - 310$. Quad-core, very fast.

Motherboard (http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=25851) - 170$. Good motherboard, not a lot to say.

RAM (http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=26456) - 100$. 1000 Mhz, faster than normal, and 4 GB. Future proofed.

HDD (http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=28170) - 155$. Rated as the best/fastest current HDD, 750 GB.

GPU (http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=29127&vpn=512%2DP3%2DN871%2DAR&manufacture=eVGA) - 350$. 9800GTX, Top-of-the-line. Make sure to ge an eVGA, they have very good service/warranties.

DVD Writer (http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=25398) - 35$. Fast, LightScribe, the works.

PSU (http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=23934) - 70$. General-purpose PSU.

Total, 730 pounds (leaving 75$ for a case). As for some components, like the RAM, DVD or the CPU, if you can't get the exact one or if it's an exorbitant price, just get the closest match.

Stay away from Sparkle/Fortron PSUs. OCZ, PC Power and Cooling, Corsair, Silverstone, Antec, Thermaltake are the good ones. Make sure that it's at least 600 watts.

For RAM, OCZ, G-Skill, Crucial, Mushkin, Kingston are your best bets. I've heard bad things about Corsair. Make sure that the RAM is dual channel DDR2-800 or higher, and try to get 4 GB, in two sticks of 2 GB. This will leave you with two more slots to add more later, and it's only about 100-110$ (if you can get the stuff I said, it's a super deal). Make sure that it's dual-channel.

I'd ask kara or another Brit about good websites in the UK.
Title: New Computer
Post by: Blue Lion on June 03, 2008, 09:32:22 PM
for 1400 you could get a pretty nice computer from almost anywhere
Title: New Computer
Post by: colecampbell666 on June 03, 2008, 10:04:37 PM
But you'll pay more if you don't custom build it. And you'll get stuff you don't want.
Title: New Computer
Post by: colecampbell666 on June 05, 2008, 01:21:44 AM
Wait. You say you need a wireless card?
Title: New Computer
Post by: Foundry on June 05, 2008, 03:13:37 PM
If I need a wireless card to connect to the internet wirelessly then yes. Wires are not an option for me. Thanks for the info Cole, I'll have it translated in a few hours time! :P
Title: New Computer
Post by: colecampbell666 on June 05, 2008, 11:42:29 PM
For sites you can try NovaTech (http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/) or Misco (http://www.misco.co.uk/indexuk.asp?).

As for wireless, just get a cheap wireless PCI card.
Title: New Computer
Post by: colecampbell666 on June 10, 2008, 05:50:35 PM
Well?
Title: New Computer
Post by: Foundry on June 10, 2008, 07:02:01 PM
Sorry for the late reply! I've given up trying to get myself a new computer I'm simply too inexperienced; instead I've opted to have a friend of mine do virtually everything for me, rather kind of them as well. Thankyou for the input everyone, it's opened my eyes to a lot of things I dan't known about previously.
Title: New Computer
Post by: St. Kobayashi on January 28, 2009, 06:09:08 AM
For me, before I purchase a new computer, I inquired to those technical people who had a good experience in buying computer parts instead of buying a whole computer components like Dell, Gateway and HP. I made a further research on those reviews and feedback about the computer shops (by service quality) and peripherals. Then I'll buy those computer parts if I'm fully decided. If there's something wrong to any parts of CPU, ask for replacement in case.

If you're a gamer, you need a higher requirement of processor, memory and GPU that you need. Also, manage your budget seriously. Desktop computers will work on a much faster performance 3D gaming. Laptop is good enough for browsing only, that's what I think. i don't wanna use Vista for the meantime for some bug issues and I'll stick to Windows XP because of stable operation.