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Title: Any modelers out there?
Post by: thesizzler on July 02, 2007, 11:37:41 PM
Okay, I started a semi total conversion a bit ago, and I've gone as far as I can go in it without any new ships. So I need some modelers.

But first, A description of the project is in order!

http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,47871.0.html

There.

As you can see in the said thread, none of the ships are all that detailed. Most of the concept art I drew up is just a guideline. Like an outline and an essay. Where my art is the outline.

I do not plan for this project to visually look super-de-duper awesome, it's main focus would be on story and gameplay.

So, if you have any modeling and UV -- UVing experience PM or e-mail me. I think my e-mail is on my HLP pro, which is accessible through the link. E-mail would be the better choice, as I use it more often. So, yeah. As said on HLP, PLEASE don't make me go to Moddb for modelers/UVerers.

And yes, I have tried modeling and I do suck at it. I made that missile frigate in truespace out of like a million cubes. But then it broke.

Thanks!

EDIT: More on the gameplay!

Basically, the gameplay will feature capitol ships and stronger anti fighter defenses more. Fighters will be a little bigger than in normal Freespace, but much quicker and more maneuverable. Instead of being able to take down this game's equivalent of destroyers with a handful of bombers, you are going to need at least two wings of bomber-gunships (gunships will be discussed later) support, a few fire-support frigates, and multiple escort fighter wings. Almost all weapons now are ballistic, except for some small beam weapons.
Title: Any modelers out there?
Post by: takashi on July 03, 2007, 01:18:51 AM
Quote from: thesizzler;76104
I do not plan for this project to visually look super-de-duper awesome, it's main focus would be on story and gameplay.


*begins modeling*
Title: Any modelers out there?
Post by: thesizzler on July 03, 2007, 05:43:55 PM
I'm not quite sure about your modeling abilities, taka. But of course, I haven't really seen much of your work at all. I saw that GTBbeamity thing, but at first it didn't even have the "beam" flag.


If your actually serious (which I doubt you are, due to lack of PMing me or e-mailing me) send me some of your completed work, and I'll see.
Title: Any modelers out there?
Post by: Topgun on July 03, 2007, 09:16:58 PM
don't let him do it... let him texture shine and glow maps, it's the only thing he is good at. (no offense Taka)
Title: Any modelers out there?
Post by: DaBrain on July 03, 2007, 10:17:43 PM
No, let him do it.

And if a model looks too bad, he'll simply have to redo it.
That's the kind of critism he needs to get better.

If he is really interested in modelling.


Just start with the most simple model and go more complex after that.
Title: Any modelers out there?
Post by: Snail on July 04, 2007, 01:53:14 PM
Quote from: Topgun;76142
don't let him do it... let him texture shine and glow maps, it's the only thing he is good at. (no offense Taka)


He's not good at that. He can just do it.
Title: Any modelers out there?
Post by: Topgun on July 04, 2007, 06:54:08 PM
Takashi needs is something easy to do while he gets better at modding (what is easier then making shine maps? all you do is lower the brightness on the texture and colorize were needed). I've seen his newer stuff, he is improving, but he needs to learn the basics of models and textures before he goes out making big blimps.
Title: Any modelers out there?
Post by: thesizzler on July 04, 2007, 09:37:04 PM
Well, he hasn't PM'd me or anything. Unless he did so in the last 3 seconds. He hasn't even been active for a while. I hope I didn't scare him off by taking him seriously. :nervous:
Title: Any modelers out there?
Post by: Star Dragon on July 05, 2007, 05:41:34 AM
He's supposed to be making "effects" especially fireworks for me...
Title: Any modelers out there?
Post by: Topgun on July 06, 2007, 03:53:31 PM
anis or still frames?
Title: Any modelers out there?
Post by: Star Dragon on July 07, 2007, 01:10:54 AM
Anis, or weapon effects like the old NOVA I posted in the RT section as an example. It makes the perfect Red/blue firework but needs other colors...
Title: Any modelers out there?
Post by: takashi on July 11, 2007, 05:19:03 PM
well, here it is. one WIP spaceship, "skylark", lightly based off the BI falkosi.

(http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/9771/wipqg9.png)

im not too fond of the curveature of the wings...and i still need to give it guns, a real cockpit, and engines.
Title: Any modelers out there?
Post by: thesizzler on July 14, 2007, 07:05:55 PM
Okay. You look competent enough to try one of the models.

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/2722/revelation2sm3.jpg

This should hopefully be about the average difficulty for capitol ships. It's a strike carrier. That runway you see coming out extends to the back of the ship so a fighter should be able to just fly straight through it. It's symmetrical, so if a turret is on one side, it's on the other.The red dots are turrets and the blue dots are missile tubes.

Just post a picture when you make some decent progress.
Title: Any modelers out there?
Post by: takashi on July 14, 2007, 08:37:55 PM
textures tiled or untiled?
Title: Any modelers out there?
Post by: thesizzler on July 14, 2007, 09:06:11 PM
Depends on what textures you're using. It should have a generally light gray color (like the color gray on the Fenris). If you plan on using the ones that look sorta plated (like the Aeolus) then it should be tiled.

If this post makes no sense, then you know why I'm not doing this myself.
Title: Any modelers out there?
Post by: takashi on July 15, 2007, 11:56:22 PM
after about a day of planning it out, here what i have after the feeble one hour i've actualy been working on it:

(http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/149/carrierru2.png)

its starting to look like something out of fs1 :ol:
Title: Any modelers out there?
Post by: Topgun on July 16, 2007, 02:33:24 PM
hmmmmmm... since you don't care about the quality, I think I might start modeling for you. I could use the practice before I start work on the y-wing.
Title: Any modelers out there?
Post by: thesizzler on July 29, 2007, 10:03:58 PM
(http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/6894/fleetwq2.png)

I've started modeling some of the models myself in Sketchup, it's just that I only hope I can properly convert them. As you can see, I suck at modeling. Even in sketchup.
Title: Any modelers out there?
Post by: takashi on July 30, 2007, 01:13:20 AM
looks like you interpretted the concept a bit differenty...heh ^_^; (< nonexistant emoticon)

so tell me, what purpose do the slots serve?
Title: Any modelers out there?
Post by: thesizzler on July 30, 2007, 02:23:09 AM
Just to make it a little less plain.
Title: Any modelers out there?
Post by: takashi on July 30, 2007, 03:22:10 AM
tscarrier.3ds - 0.01MB (http://www.zshare.net/download/29010211e1342d/)

sorry abo0ut the missing UV and turrets, blender>3ds conversion ate them :\
Title: Any modelers out there?
Post by: thesizzler on July 30, 2007, 03:22:42 PM
Looks satisfactory... except that it's not even three feet long :p. But seriously, you're gonna need to be working quite a bit faster on this team, as I just made like five models yesterday, as opposed to your one model in two weeks.
Title: Any modelers out there?
Post by: Star Dragon on July 30, 2007, 04:48:34 PM
Question: Sizzler, are you named after Sizzler Black from GunBuster?
Title: Any modelers out there?
Post by: thesizzler on July 30, 2007, 05:27:51 PM
Nope. Anything that might lead you to believe I am named after something is pure coincidence.
Title: Any modelers out there?
Post by: takashi on August 01, 2007, 07:38:42 PM
Quote from: thesizzler;77696
Looks satisfactory... except that it's not even three feet long :p. But seriously, you're gonna need to be working quite a bit faster on this team, as I just made like five models yesterday, as opposed to your one model in two weeks.


bah..blenders scaling.

you see, i've been on the computer less and less. it is summer, after all.
Title: Any modelers out there?
Post by: thesizzler on August 13, 2007, 10:50:05 PM
Here's a small write up about one of the many ship manufacturing/designing corporations.


BASE
Basic Aeronautics and Space Engineering


Base was founded during the turmoil after the union wars, during the economic and political depression. The new
government was in over its head trying to keep order among the planets, and the rampant piracy and organized crime
caused by both the depression and brutality that was displayed towards resisting groups. What is now BASE was
founded by a group of ex-military technicians just after the fourth election, but it didn't start as
BASE. The company was originally named Rechtir Military Hardware, after one of the founders. RMH quickly found
success when they made the Battlements class gunship. The Battlements was a 60 meter long gunship that had enough
anti-fighter weaponry to easily deal with space borne pirates, and also had a large cargo bay, which could either be
turned into temporary holding cells for prisoners or just a cargo bay to transport reliefe goods such as food,
water, and clothing. Along with other ships, RMH quickly rose to the top in defense contracts which caught the
attention of several already successful defense companies. Northern Front was a company that also produced gunships
and fighters, and they wanted to purchase RMH. RMH wouldn't sell, but they did agree to combine the two companies
into BASE, which made both companies a total of over eight hundred trillion dollars in the next hundred and twenty
five years. It was then that the company had trouble. BASE had been the top hiring, paying, and manufacturing
company in over five hundred years. It had effectively brought the galaxy out of the depression. But then with peace
and stability for the most part restored, profits eventually slid into losses. BASE had grown to large and could no
longer support itself. Eventually about half the shares were bought out and to re-make Northern Front. Still called
BASE, BASE had lost over half of its savings in following lawsuits between the two, and had to cut wages nearly by eight.
Nevertheless, still an impressive company, BASE was a lot smaller. Fortunately, they could now manage
themselves in the new relativly peaceful society. Northern Front remained large competition, and started to dominate
frigate class vessels and ground craft, while BASE was restrained to fighters and gunships. Though, two noteable
BASE frigates are the missile and beam support frigates, which are in use by the Federation. Today BASE remains the
top grossing defense contracter, thanks to the greater need of small craft.